Sunday, 23 September 2012

Matt and Marg: Emmy Picks!


The Emmy's are tonight and in true Skinny Chai fashion- here are our predictions:
                       


The Big Bang Theory • CBS
Curb Your Enthusiasm • HBO
Girls • HBO 
Modern Family • ABC
30 Rock • NBC
Veep • HBO 

Matt: I'm rooting for Veep. It's sharp, funny and worthy of the top honor (seeing how Parks & Rec isn't even nominated)

Marg: I am on a real Girls kick right now, but see it going one of just two ways: If the Emmy voters have decided to be smart, Veep will win. If they were frightened of all the new words being thrown at them, Modern Family will win.  

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Comedy Series

Girls • HBO
Lena Dunham as Hannah Horvath
Mike & Molly • CBS
Melissa McCarthy as Molly Flynn
 New Girl • FOX
Zooey Deschanel as Jess Day
 Nurse Jackie • Showtime
Edie Falco as Jackie Peyton
 Parks And Recreation • NBC
Amy Poehler as Leslie Knope 
 30 Rock • NBC
Tina Fey as Liz Lemon
 Veep • HBO 
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer

Matt: This is a tough one. I'd love to see Zooey Deschanel take it, but I think it will probably go to Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Melissa McCarthy won it last year, but I think that probably had more to do with Bridesmaids than it did Mike & Molly. I'd also love to see Amy Poehler win, but for some stupid reason the Emmy's have a thing out for Parks & Rec.

Marg: I love so many of the women on this list, but feel strongly that this is Amy Poehler's year - she is in the public eye right now for things unrelated to her amazing show, but has remained utterly graceful and gracious throughout. The past season of that amazing show was a work of art, and the Leslie Knope journey therein should be rewarded! 

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series

The Big Bang Theory • CBS
Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper
Curb Your Enthusiasm • HBO
Larry David as Himself
House Of Lies • Showtime
Don Cheadle as Marty Kaan
Louie • FX Networks
Louis C.K. as Louie
30 Rock • NBC
Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy
Two And A Half Men • CBS
Jon Cryer as Alan Harper

Matt: I don't watch any of these shows. So I'll say Jim Parsons, just because he's won it in the past. 

Marg: I love me some Alec Baldwin, and he could take home the prize because 30 Rock is going into it's short final season so it will likely be the last opportunity to reward his outstanding work on that show. He doesn't fully deserve it for this past season though, which was uneven at best. Talent-wise, I think Louis C.K. should be the winner - but I worry that the Emmy voters will continue to be perverse by giving it to Jon Cryer yet again.

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series

The Big Bang Theory • CBS
Mayim Bialik as Amy Farrah Fowler
Desperate Housewives • ABC
Kathryn Joosten as Karen McCluskey
Modern Family • ABC
Julie Bowen as Claire Dunphy
Modern Family • ABC
Sofia Vergara as Gloria Delgado-Pritchett
Nurse Jackie • Showtime
Merritt Wever as Zoey Barkow
Saturday Night Live • NBC
Kristen Wiig as various characters

Matt: How awesome would it be if Blossom won an emmy! But in all seriousness it should go to Kristen Wigg, but Kathryn Joosten will probably win because she died. Just telling it like it is... 

Marg: I think it is absurd that Joosten was nominated just because she died. Desperate Housewives wouldn't be nominated for anything at this point had she not, and things would be fine. Kristen Wiig would be an awesome winner - I see it going to Sofia Vergara maybe. 

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series

Modern Family • ABC
Ed O'Neill as Jay Pritchett
Modern Family • ABC
Jesse Tyler Ferguson as Mitchell Pritchett
Modern Family • ABC
Ty Burrell as Phil Dunphy
Modern Family • ABC
Eric Stonestreet as Cameron Tucker
 New Girl • FOX
Max Greenfield as Schmidt
Saturday Night Live • NBC
Bill Hader as various characters

Matt: I think Ty Burrell is consistently the funniest actor on Modern Family, and it would be great to see him recognized.

Marg: Modern Family used to be an amazing show... it is no longer an amazing show. Apparently whoever came up with the nominees doesn't actually watch TV, though. I love both the non-Modern Family nominees - it should go to Bill Hader, and to Max Greenfield next year after the list remains exactly the same save for Hader being replaced by the kid who plays Manny.  

Outstanding Guest Actress In A Comedy Series

Glee • FOX
Dot-Marie Jones as Coach Shannon Beiste
Saturday Night Live • NBC
Maya Rudolph, Host
Saturday Night Live • NBC
Melissa McCarthy, Host
30 Rock • NBC
Elizabeth Banks as Avery Jessup
30 Rock • NBC
Margaret Cho as Kim Jong-il
Two And A Half Men • CBS
Kathy Bates as Charlie Harper

Matt: Okay, I've only seen the 2 SNL nominees, and out of those I'd give it to Mya Rudolph. But I've heard that Margaret Cho as Kim Jong-il was amazing, so it would be great to see her get it. 

Marg: Maya Rudolph! She is a damn gem, and that episode was great. 

Outstanding Guest Actor In A Comedy Series 

Curb Your Enthusiasm • HBO
Michael J. Fox as Himself
Modern Family • ABC
Greg Kinnear as Tad
Nurse Jackie • Showtime
Bobby Cannavale as Dr. Mike Cruz
Saturday Night Live • NBC
Jimmy Fallon, Host
30 Rock • NBC
Will Arnett as Devon Banks
30 Rock • NBC
Jon Hamm as Abner and David Brinkley

Matt: Jon Hamm. He's pretty.

Marg: Jon Hamm has a perpetual fart face. It will go to Michael J. Fox because of... you know...  

Outstanding Writing for a Comedy Series

Community • Remedial Chaos Theory • NBC
Chris McKenna, Written by
Girls • Pilot • HBO
Lena Dunham, Written by
Louie • Pregnant • FX Networks
Louis C.K., Written by
Parks And Recreation • The Debate • NBC
Amy Poehler, Written by
Parks And Recreation • Win, Lose, Or Draw • NBC
Michael Schur, Written by

Matt: Amy Poehler!! This was Parks & Rec's best season. Amy Poehler for the win!

Marg: It SHOULD go to Chris McKenna for Community - Remedial Chaos Theory is no lie, one of the most ingenious pieces of television I have ever seen. It should be studied in classes. BUT, maybe it will go to Lena Dunham? The pilot isn't the best episode of the season, but there was a lot of buzz there. And of course, I'd be happy for each of the Parks & Rec episodes to win - such a good season. 

Outstanding Drama Series

Boardwalk Empire • HBO 
Breaking Bad • AMC
Downton Abbey • PBS
Game Of Thrones • HBO
Homeland • Showtime
Mad Men • AMC 

Matt: A tough one! Both Downton Abbey & Game of Thrones are two of my fav shows on television. If it were up to me, I think I'd give it to Downton Abbey. Only because I still haven't seen season 2 of Game of Thrones, and that's what the nomination is based on. 

 Marg: Mad Men, always Mad Men. 

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Drama Series

Damages • DirecTV
Glenn Close as Patty Hewes
Downton Abbey • PBS
Michelle Dockery as Lady Mary Crawley
The Good Wife • CBS
Julianna Margulies as Alicia Florrick
Harry's Law • NBC
Kathy Bates as Harriet Korn
Homeland • Showtime
Claire Danes as Carrie Mathison
Mad Men • AMC
Elisabeth Moss as Peggy Olson

Matt: Glen Close in Damages is one of the craziest things I have ever seen.

Marg: I was unaware that the character's last name in Harry's Law was Korn, that is hilarious. I apparently don't watch enough dramas, since I only watch Mad Men here - go Peggy!  

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Drama Series

Boardwalk Empire • HBO
Steve Buscemi as Nucky Thompson
Breaking Bad • AMC
Bryan Cranston as Walter White
Dexter • Showtime
Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan
Downton Abbey • PBS
Hugh Bonneville as Robert, Earl of Grantham
Homeland • Showtime
Damian Lewis as Nicholas Brody
Mad Men • AMC
Jon Hamm as Don Draper

Matt: The only show I still watch on this list is Downton. So Hugh Bonneville for the win! 

Marg: Oh it will probably go to Bryan Cranston because it turns out other people love watching nothing but bad things happen again and again and again. 

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series

Breaking Bad • AMC
Anna Gunn as Skyler White
Downton Abbey • PBS
Maggie Smith as Violet, Dowager Countess of Grantham
Downton Abbey • PBS
Joanne Froggatt as Anna
The Good Wife • CBS
Archie Panjabi as Kalinda Sharma
The Good Wife • CBS
Christine Baranski as Diane Lockhart
 Mad Men • AMC
Christina Hendricks as Joan Holloway Harris

Matt: I love Christine Baranski in The Good Wife, but Maggie Smith is a HUGE part of the success in Downton Abbey. My vote is for Maggie.

Marg: Yes, Christina Hendricks is a personal hero of mine and is an angel sent from heaven to make me feel bad because I don't have large enough hips - so of course I believe she should win by default. But did you see her in this past season of Mad Men? MY GOD. She deserves to win. She needs to win. 

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series

Breaking Bad • AMC
Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman
Breaking Bad • AMC
Giancarlo Esposito as Gustavo 'Gus' Fring
Downton Abbey • PBS
Brendan Coyle as John Bates
Downton Abbey • PBS
Jim Carter as Mr. Carson
Game Of Thrones • HBO
Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister
Mad Men • AMC
Jared Harris as Lane Pryce

Matt: I think the buzz is around Aaron Paul. I stopped watching Breaking Bad part way through season 2, but he was pretty good. However, my vote is for Jim Carter in Downton. Man makes a good butler! 

Marg: Aaron Paul will probably take this home, but Jared Harris was so flippin' good on Mad Men. So good. So sad. 

Outstanding Guest Actress In A Drama Series

The Good Wife • CBS
Martha Plimpton as Patti Nyholm
Grey's Anatomy • ABC
Loretta Devine as Adele Webber
Harry's Law • NBC
Jean Smart as D.A. Roseanna Remmick
Mad Men • AMC
Julia Ormond as Marie Calvet
Shameless • Showtime
Joan Cusack as Sheila Jackson
Smash • NBC
Uma Thurman as Rebecca Duvall

Matt: I loves me some Loretta Devine! From the first moment I saw her in Boston Public I identified with her as a brassy black woman. BUT, Jean Smart was the best (and really only good) part of Harry's Law. And she deserves some recognition.

Marg: Ooh, finally a category where I turn away from my beloved Mad Men - I wasn't overly impressed with Ormond, as pretty and french and Roger-Sterling-blowing as she was. I don't watch the other shows though, so.... Loretta Devine for that piece of tripe Grey's Anatomy? 

Outstanding Guest Actor In A Drama Series

Breaking Bad • AMC
Mark Margolis as Tio Salamanca
The Good Wife • CBS
Dylan Baker as Colin Sweeney
The Good Wife • CBS
Michael J. Fox as Louis Canning
Justified • FX Networks
Jeremy Davies as Dickie Bennett
Mad Men • AMC
Ben Feldman as Michael Ginsberg
Parenthood • NBC
Jason Ritter as Mark Cyr


Matt: I'm going for Jason Ritter from Parenthood. One of my favorite shows that doesn't get the viewers or recognition it deserves.

Marg: Ginsberg is adorable - but I think Michael J. Fox will take this if he doesn't take it for Curb. 

Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series

Downton Abbey • Episode 7
Julian Fellowes, Written by
Homeland • Pilot • Showtime
Alex Gansa, Written by
Howard Gordon, Written by
Gideon Raff, Written by
Mad Men • The Other Woman • AMC
Semi Chellas, Written by
Matthew Weiner, Written by
Mad Men • Commissions And Fees • AMC
Andre Jacquemetton, Written by
Maria Jacquemetton, Written by
Mad Men • Far Away Places • AMC
Matthew Weiner, Written by
Semi Chellas, Written by

Matt: Apparently Homeland is amazing, but the only one I've seen is Downton so it gets my pick.

Marg: I am split between all three of the Mad Men nominees: The Other Woman is... deeply uncomfortable, Commissions and Fees is deepy sad (yet, the scene in the car was so... funny), and Far Away Places is structurally devine and has the sherbert scene, which was amazing. I think I'll give it to The Other Woman - because it gives the most opportunity for conversation.  

Outstanding Miniseries or Movie

American Horror Story • FX Networks
Game Change • HBO
Hatfields & McCoys • HISTORY
Hemingway & Gellhorn • HBO 
Luther • BBC America
Sherlock: A Scandal In Belgravia (Masterpiece) • PBS 

Matt: Game Change will win. The only other possibility is American Horror Story. But I think it will be Game Change.

Marg: Sherlock. 100x Sherlock.   

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Miniseries Or A Movie

American Horror Story • FX Networks
Connie Britton as Vivien Harmon
Game Change • HBO
Julianne Moore as Sarah Palin
Hemingway & Gellhorn • HBO
Nicole Kidman as Martha Gellhorn
Missing • ABC
Ashley Judd as Rebecca Winstone
The Song Of Lunch (Masterpiece) • PBS
Emma Thompson as She

Matt: If any category is a sure thing, it's this one. And it will be Julianne Moore.

Marg: I don't know if the Emmy's would give up an opportunity to have Nicole Kidman grace their stage.  

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie

Game Change • HBO
Woody Harrelson as Steve Schmidt
Hatfields & McCoys • HISTORY
Kevin Costner as 'Devil' Anse Hatfield
Hatfields & McCoys • HISTORY
Bill Paxton as Randall McCoy
Hemingway & Gellhorn • HBO
Clive Owen as Ernest Hemingway
Luther • BBC America
Idris Elba as John Luther
Sherlock: A Scandal In Belgravia (Masterpiece) • PBS
Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock Holmes

Matt: Ummm, let's go with.... Kevin Costner. Everyone in Water World deserves an award for something. 

Marg: SHERLOCK. BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH!!!

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Miniseries or A Movie

American Horror Story • FX Networks
Frances Conroy as Moira
American Horror Story • FX Networks
Jessica Lange as Constance Langdon
Game Change • HBO
Sarah Paulson as Nicolle Wallace
Hatfields & McCoys • HISTORY
Mare Winningham as Sally McCoy
Page Eight (Masterpiece) • PBS
Judy Davis as Jill Tankard

Matt: My bet is with Jessica Lange. She's an Emmy fav.

Marg: Sure, why not, Lange.  

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Miniseries Or A Movie

American Horror Story • FX Networks
Denis O'Hare as Larry Harvey
Game Change • HBO
Ed Harris as John McCain
Hatfields & McCoys • HISTORY
Tom Berenger as Jim Vance
Hemingway & Gellhorn • HBO
David Strathairn as John Dos Passos
Sherlock: A Scandal In Belgravia (Masterpiece) • PBS
Martin Freeman as Dr. John Watson

Matt: Ed Harris, because he's Ed Harris. 

Marg: Get out of the way, Martin Freeman needs to collect his prize. He will thank Benedict and they will ride off into the sunset together with their trophies. 



Outstanding Variety Series

The Colbert Report • Comedy Central
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
Jimmy Kimmel Live • ABC
Late Night With Jimmy Fallon
Real Time With Bill Maher • HBO
Saturday Night Live • NBC 

Mat: This one is interesting. In my opinion SNL had a fantastic season, BUT, Jimmy Kimmel has really taken off in the past year or so, BUT, John Stewart is awesome, and a favorite in this category. My pick: John Stewart.

Marg: Colbert, I think.  


Outstanding Reality-Competition Program

The Amazing Race • CBS
Dancing With The Stars • ABC
Project Runway • Lifetime
So You Think You Can Dance • FOX
Top Chef • Bravo • Magical Elves
The Voice • NBC 

Matt: I only watch The Voice and Project Runway. Out of the 2, I think I'd go with Project Runway. 

Marg: SYTYCD. 


So until the Emmy's air on Sunday, let this hype video tied you over. And let's all pray that the winners take JA'N's advice.

Friday, 17 August 2012

Shameless Promotion

We've never really shamelessly promoted anything on The Skinny Chai but as a favour to a kick-ass friend, we're going to make an exception!

This is Jen (and Kate Monster):

Credit: Facebook creepin'
Things to know about Jen: she is hilarious, she sings, she likes pink and canary yellow, she is always at home with a bottle of wine, she makes excellent snacks, and she is a 25 year old woman who is still madly in love with the band Hanson. 

Remember when everyone knew at least one boy who said he thought the chicks from Hanson were hot?
 
Jen has loved these guys since day one, and even though she has gotten to see them in concert, she has never gotten the chance to meet them before now - all you need to do is log into facebook, and click THIS LINK, then like her video on the Casino Nova Scotia facebook page (go to their main page and scroll down til you find the video of the blonde girl and her puppet, if the link acts up.)

Why should you do such a thing, you may be asking. Well, imagine you had the chance to meet your all-time favourite band as long as you were able to harness the power of social networking... I think you'd sweeten the deal as much as you could. Jen is doing just that - part of the prize that the Casino is giving away is a dinner for two - that will be donated to a random person who likes the video! Another lucky "liker" will be winning a free photoshoot from a generous and talented supporter and friend of Jen's!

The little guy grew up to look like a too-serious visual artist named Harriet.
I don't see the appeal of Hanson, myself. But I do see the appeal of their fans loving them so much. By showing your support of Jen and her video, you are showing your support for thrills and dreams and fandom. We all have things that we just plain like the most, you know? And sometimes we are giving the chance to slap cynicism in the face and say "let's make a little dream come true!" 


-Marg
@acuteinsomnia 
 

Tuesday, 14 August 2012

Marg: Batman & Robin (Naturally!)

Based on the absolute thrill of seeing Batman Forever for the first time, I could not delay in seeing the epic Batman & Robin. It did not disappoint - you know, except as a film.


So... it really is as bad as everyone always said it was. Did you watch the trailer? The movie is just... more of that! The terrible acting? Bingo! The bizarre sets? You betcha! The horrible even for 1997 special effects? Yes sir! The crotch shots? You just wait! 

It doesn't even have as good a poster has Batman Forever.
Joel Schumacher pointedly, directly, obviously intended for there to be an undercurrent of sexual tension between Robin and Batman - or rather, not even sexual tension as in the first of his films in the franchise, but actually a realized relationship between the pair who bicker like a married couple throughout the movie, but who love each other still. This is not a criticism, I wish that it could have been more than implication - if Batman has a Robin, and that Robin is a young attractive guy who lives with him, and they like to share secrets and wear matching outfits and serve their community - well, it isn't wrong to want to see them as being in a more-than-friends relationship. They sound like a couple to me, and it's pretty naive to assume that they aren't. But Schumacher, even though he clearly interpreted that relationship the same way I do, he wasn't allowed to say Batman and Robin have been dating since about 3 days after the last movie ended. So instead, he acted out by putting in even more crotch, nipple, and butt shots than last time! 
This video repeats pointlessly, but the first two shots are legit.

George Clooney took over from doughy Val Kilmer, finally giving Batman the jawline he deserves. But whoa, what a terrible job he does in the movie! This is a future Oscar winner, but he doesn't even change his voice to sound more Batmanish! Listen, he's third here in the "I'm Batman" supercut - He's not even trying!
   
Clooney seemed to adopt some of Kilmer's wardrobe from the previous film, even sporting an oversized turtleneck as Bruce Wayne.
Just going for a stroll with Val's turleneck.

Chris O'Donnell returns as Robin, and he's still young and cool... But you know, he was 27 when this thing came out. I'm not 27 yet and I am certainly no longer young and cool. I wouldn't be even if I did say things like cowabunga!

There is someone undoubtedly younger AND cooler on the scene in Batman and Robin though - it's Alicia Silverstone in the movie that demolished her career! She plays Alfred's niece, who according to the deleted scene "Alfred's Lost Love" isn't his niece at all, but his ex-girlfriend's daughter. His ex-girlfriend shown as a photo of the old lady from Titanic, so somehow Cher Horowitz's mother is a 90 year old woman. Alfred's "niece" is also Batgirl, for some reason? And as I said she is younger (but who knows how young, because she goes to "Oxbridge" but dresses like a schoolgirl) and also cooler, because in one too-long scene she street races, as you do.
Also, her "uncle" made her this costume.
It is also crucial to note, that because Batgirl is a teenager(?) in 1997, she is a master hacker. That's why when she had to hack into a password protected laser disc (1997!) of Alfred's, her first password choice is "Alfred". Later, she and Robin have a hacking race to reroute some satellites - it's all very Angelina Jolie and Sick Boy.

The villains in Batman & Robin are some of the worst I have ever seen committed to film. Uma Thurman in particular just shines at bad acting as the chemically seductive Poison Ivy. Before she is attacked with her own plant-and-animal based experiments which transform her into a poisonous evil-doer, she was a nerdy dishevelled scientist - just like The Riddler was... they might be the same person now that I think of it - both get transformed into green suit wearing red heads. Anyway! Uma's version of nerdy was just pointing her finger sharply and repeatedly. It was very distracting. Her version of the slinky and dangerous Poison Ivy was wildly inconsistent - she seemed unable or unwilling to hold the same inflection of speech scene by scene. An amateur move by an actress who should've done better.
Those gloves look like green dog boners.
As I noted in my The Dark Knight Rises review, the character of Bane, whom I had never even heard of before, made a great impact on me ("What a lovely, lovely voice") - I had to be warned going into Batman & Robin that this simply wasn't the Bane that I knew and loved. Nothing could have prepared me for what in the blue hell this was:

No.
The worst bit is that apparently Bane is supposed to be one of Batman's more brilliant matches, but instead, there was that guy, doofin' up the joint. 

I think that the Mr. Freeze character, played by the terrifically terrible Arnold Schwarzenegger was probably the most entertaining role to write - almost all of his dialogue is inane one liners all vaguely cold-themed. Someone clearly just wrote down all that they could think of, and used them in the script even when they didn't make any sort of sense to the plot. Or even if they didn't make any sort of sense for anything ever, like "What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!!!" - no, Mr. Freeze, not even true. 

If you had four minutes and you watched that (you should, it's great), you'll see Vivica A. Fox's one and only scene in the whole movie, playing a bimbo who for some reason wants to bone Mr. Freeze. Poison Ivy also wants to bone him. And he has a hot deadish wife. I wonder if that was all part of Schwarzenegger's contract?
For a guy who has a cyro-frozen wife and strong criminal desires, Mr. Freeze is having the time of his life. In spite of his situation (he really loves that wife), he constantly cracks wise throughout the movie, and enjoys a hearty chuckle. In one bizarre scene, he even attempts to lead is chilly minions in a sing along while wearing fuzzy slippers.

Mr. Freeze, by the way, is a doctor. I don't know why he isn't called Dr. Freeze. I feel like they really missed out there. He needs diamonds to stay cold because of this time he fell in a cold pond. Why diamonds, you say? Well diamonds are really cold, didn't you know that? Yeah, way cold, super cold. That's science. 
Wait a second, how are you going to light that cigar?
Obviously he wants to steal some diamond (a cold, cold diamond) and Batman needs to stop him, and Poison Ivy is around using poison-pheromones to convince Batman and Robin that they want to have sex with a woman, and Robin wears some rubber lips, and Batgirl tries to be cute and it doesn't work, and Alfred gets sick and scares me by taking off his glasses, and gets better, and Poison Ivy jealously kills Freeze's deadish wife, and Batman saves the day, and that's the plot of Batman & Robin in no particular order. At the end, Mr. Freeze is allowed to share a cell with Poison Ivy even though that is clearly a disgusting violation of every code of ethics because he is obviously going to destroy her. It's pretty gross.

It's a genuinely terrible film. At one point Batman & Robin surf though the sky on bits of rocket. And for the climax, the team changes into ice themed suits even though they didn't have time for that. And then Robin changes back. At one point Poison Ivy says "Come join me. My garden needs tending" and surely she is talking about her pubes.

It's a nuanced film.
Much like on the DVD of Batman Forever, there is a selection of excellent music videos included with Batman & Robin. The first:


This is R. Kelly with Gotham City. It is painfully clear that R. Kelly has never seen or read or heard of anything Batman related in his entire life. The lyrics indicate the opposite of anything that Gotham City has ever been described as. Also, nice hat. ALSO, I don't recall ever hearing this during the movie.

And the second, exactly as I am showing you here:

Yes, Jewel's Foolish Games. This video and song have even less to do with the movie. I didn't hear it in any scene or at least the first part of the credits. The music video contains no clips from Batman & Robin. She does look a little cold. I think Joel Schumacher just likes this song.

-Marg
@acuteinsomnia